Archive for January, 2010

Was Lapidus born on the island?

Posted in Some wonderings I don't really believe on January 29, 2010 by Scott Copperman

I’m wondering if….

since Miles and Charlotte lived on the island as children and Hawking was Faraday’s mother, is Lapidus the child of an islander?

More thoughts on this when I have more time.

-Scott Copperman-

LOST Parody Song

Posted in Videos with tags , , on January 28, 2010 by Scott Copperman

Pretty clever.

-Scott Copperman-

Some questions about Charles Widmore

Posted in Observations, Some wonderings I don't really believe with tags , , on January 25, 2010 by Scott Copperman

As we approach the start of season 6, people are getting excited. I am too.

We’ve already recorded our last hiatus episode of ReThinking LOST (the predictions episode will be out by Thursday), so this blog will be a great place for me to share the couple of last minute musings I have.

Today I’d like to talk a bit about Charles Widmore.

Charles was once co-leader of the Others. He was exiled, and hasn’t been back to the island since (as far as we know).

Here are some questions I have…

When we saw Widmore at his youngest, was he in charge of the others? It didn’t seem so. If so, by what right? If not, who was in charge and how did Charles come to be the man?

When he was a leader of the group, did he interact with Jacob? Could he see/hear him? Was his relationship with Jacob better than Bens?

Why couldn’t Widmore get back to the island?  He clearly knew about the Lamppost (he told Desmond that was where Hawking was) … is it that the island would not have allowed him back? Why didn’t Widmore get on the freighter (I suspect it’s partly because he knew how that all would play out)?

Who is Penny’s mother? Many people assume Penny is the child Widmore fathered while off island. Some think it could be Locke. What do you think?

How did Widmore become so wealthy? Is that part of being exiled? What are Widmore’s connections to Dharma, Hanso, Paik? Isn’t the timing of this all kind of odd? Widmore was still on island 16 years before the Losties arrived. That’s a lot of power that man has acquired in a very short amount of time.

Naomi had a picture of Desmond and Penny, which suggests Widmore knew Desmond was on the island. How? Did he manipulate Desmond to be there?

I have a feeling Widmore will play a lesser role in Season 6. That would be disappointing, because I think TPTB spent a lot of time setting him up as the “bad guy if it’s not Ben.” And I don’t think Ben’s a bad guy – not at his core.

-Scott Copperman-

Lost in 8:15 – Where’s Alex?

Posted in Observations, ReThinking LOST, Uncategorized with tags , , , , , , , , , on January 21, 2010 by Scott Copperman

Back on January 12th we recorded what will likely become Episode 23 of ReThinking LOST. The episode is finally going to be released for another week or so, and I don’t want to spoil it, so…  I’m not going to go into all the things we talked about.

However, I will tell you this. Elton McManus, Ross Cleaver, and I spent an hour looking at the original LOST in 8:15 video and the more recent release which covers seasons 1 – 5 instead of only 1-3. The differences were intriguing and if this truly is “what you need to know” going into Season 6, then it suggests many things that people have spent a lot of time analyzing are not important at all.

Case in point (and I’m fairly sure this did not even make it into our discussion)… Alex (Rousseau’s daughter, raised by Ben) does not appear anywhere in either video. Her exclusion from the most recent video suggests that Ben’s issues with Widmore may not play a major role in Season 6.

Can’t you just picture how easy it would have been to have that fast talking woman say “Widmore sent Kimi. Kimi killed Alex. Ben cried. Ben found Widmore and made a promise. “BEN: I’m here, Charles, to tell you that I’m going to kill your daughter. Penelope, is it? And once she’s gone… once she’s dead… then you’ll understand how I feel. And you’ll wish you hadn’t changed the rules.” Ben finds Penny. (shot of young Charlie calling for Mommy). Ben can’t do it.”

Look at this study of the confrontation scene from Vozzek’s web site. Hmm… “the shape of things to come?” Apparently not.

If it turns out that this conflict is over and done with , I think that tells us two things…

  1. Pennys’ lineage as a Widmore, Danielle and Alex, and Ben’s role as a father are not going to be key parts of Season 6.
  2. Widmore is not THE bad guy. He may be a pawn of, but just as I theorize Ben is a good guy with bad people skills… the same may be true of Widmore. But he is NOT the antagonist in our main story of LOST.

We go into this a bit more in next week’s Season 6 Predictions episode of ReThinking LOST, but that won’t be out until after the LOST in 8:15 analysis is released.

So, please be sure to check out that episode and let me know what you think about this and other omissions.

-Scott Copperman-

ReThinking LOST Episode 022 now available

Posted in Airdates and Show Schedule, ReThinking LOST with tags , , , , , , , on January 18, 2010 by Scott Copperman

You can check out Episode 22 and every episode of ReThinking LOST on Itunes or at our main site:

Episode 022 was actually recorded as Episode 023, but after a day full of spoilery tweets on twitter, we decided to invite Anna from the Jacob’s Cabin podcast over and vent. It’s a quicky, but it’s something we wanted to say. Also, you’ll find the new Ep 023 (featuring special guest Ross from the Creeping With Armstrong podcast) is worth the wait.

Enjoy the show.

Scott Copperman

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ReThinking LOST Episode 21 now available

Posted in ReThinking LOST with tags , , , on January 12, 2010 by Scott Copperman

You can check out Episode 21 and every episode of ReThinking LOST on Itunes or at our main site:

It’s a good episode. We follow up on some listener suggestions of theories and emails. I make a (pretty embarassing) pitch to be included in Jay and Jack’s Autism Speaks 24 hour podcast. I was serious, though, when I said it’s the same weekend as the Atlantic City Beer Fest (a.k.a. “the celebration of the suds”). I do hope to attend one of those two… are you listening/reading Jay and Jack?  I’m giving you first dibs.

We also weren’t really sure how much we wanted to go into the non-existent (in my eyes) connection between the worlds of LOST and Flash Forward. I explain it in the show, but again, I think you have to look at in the way the St. Elsewhere tie-ins played out. It’s a nod to the fans or to good source materials, not a link between worlds. If you didn’t already, go check out this site to see how convoluted it could potentially get: . It’d actually be pretty cool if someone went through and made a map similar to the one on that site taking all the JJ “nods” that connect Mission Impossible and Cloverfield and Star Trek and Star Wars and Lost and such… but that’s my point… it’s too much.

Enjoy the show. I’ll react to feedback here and on an upcoming show.

Scott Copperman

Keys to Lost Musical Moments

Posted in Observations with tags , , , , on January 11, 2010 by Scott Copperman

At the end of 2009, Matt and Leslie of the Keys to LOST podcast released a 25 Rockin’ Musical Moments Holiday Special. I was proud to be included in that show, and my musical moment was the scene in the pilot episode described below:

[Shot of Michael holding something up (some kind of tarp?) under some debris, puts his arm on Walt’s shoulder. Shot of Locke alone on the beach in a sort of meditation pose (music is sort of bittersweet). Locke holds his arms out, turns his face up to the rain, seems happy; we see the Monster in the jungle by the beach. Claire and Rose see it.]

CLAIRE: There it is again.

ROSE: Oh my god.

(although I also had in mind the scene in all “All the Best Cowboys have Daddy Issues” when Locke predicts the rain and behaves similarly)

The song I felt best captured this/these moment(s) was But Not Tonight by Depeche Mode.

The key lyrics being …

Oh God it’s raining
But I’m not complaining
It’s filling me up with new life
The stars in the sky
Bring tears to my eyes
They’re lighting my way tonight
And I haven’t felt so alive
In years

The moon
Is shining in the sky
Reminding me
Of so many other nights
When my eyes had been so red
I’d been mistaken for dead
But not tonight

As I said in Matt and Leslie’s podcast, I feel like those scenes are significant because they are some of the earliest glimpses we get of John’s special connection to the island. And we see, quite literally, that the island has renewed him… “filling him up with new life.”

Plus, given Locke’s apparent reincarnation in Season 5, the final stanza seems particularly applicable.

There are other great musical moments in LOST (be sure to check out the Keys to Lost episode and the podcast in general, if you haven’t already), but that was one scene which has an automatic soundtrack in my head every time I see it. And so, that was my musical moment.

Scott Copperman

Has Aaron been raised by another?

Posted in Some wonderings I don't really believe with tags , , , , on January 10, 2010 by Scott Copperman

Richard Malkin’s warning to Claire is well known to LOST fans, although it is often misquoted.

According to LOSTpedia, the dialogue goes as follows…

MALKIN: It is crucial that you yourself raise this child.

CLAIRE: You mean with Thomas? Is he..

MALKIN: The father of this child will play no part in it’s life, nor yours.

CLAIRE: So what exactly are you saying?

MALKIN: This child parented by anyone else, anyone other than you — danger surrounds this baby. . .

CLAIRE: Danger?

MALKIN: Your nature, your spirit, your goodness, must be an influence in the development of this child.

CLAIRE: Look, if Thomas and I don’t get back together I’m putting this baby up for adoption. I just wanted to find out what would give the baby the happiest life.

MALKIN: There is no happy life — not for this child, not without you.

CLAIRE: I don’t. . .

MALKIN: It can’t be another. You mustn’t allow another to raise your baby.

So, people often pick apart that last line… does it mean that only Claire can parent Aaron or is “another” really “an other” and it’s a foretelling of the danger the Others pose to Claire, her friends, and of course the baby.

The balance of the dialogue suggests Malkin is referring to parenting the child, but it would not be above the writers of LOST to  misdirect us a bit – placing information within information.

But I wonder if the double entendre lies in the concept of “raising” Aaron as opposed to who does it.

We’ve seen Locke seemingly “raised” from the dead. Reincarnated? Apparently not, but perhaps his spirit… his consciousness… his essence has been taken and restored within the Fake-Locke-Dark-Shirted-Man vessel.

Remember when, on island, Claire said she hadn’t felt the baby kick since the crash. It finally responded to Jin’s urchin sushi. Perhaps that’s not the real Aaron. Perhaps, the baby Claire gave birth to was actually a “raised” version of the unborn child who died in the crash.

I don’t really think that’s the case. I’m more in agreement with the very literal interpretation of Malkin’s warning: don’t let someone else parent the child.

And, for the record… I do realize that for how along Claire was in the pregnancy, (I don’t want to be graphic)… let’s just say that if Fake-Locke is a duplicate body and we have seen Locke’s original body, um… well, a scientifically accurate birth would not have allowed the existence of two Aarons to go unnoticed by  Jack.

I was just wondering aloud.

Scott Copperman

The State of the Union hullabaloo

Posted in Airdates and Show Schedule with tags , , , , on January 9, 2010 by Scott Copperman

This is exactly why I started this blog.

About 48 hours ago , I first started seeing the #NoStateofUnionFeb2 hashtag on twitter. The big fear sweeping through the internet was that President Obama might hold his State of the Union address on February 2, the scheduled opening date for the final season of LOST.

By the time you read this, it’s old news. Again, exactly why I started this blog. I did hope to get a reaction and “two cents worth” in before the matter was resolved, but I knew there was no way it would remain a lingering and relevant issue until we recorded our next episode of ReThinking LOST, let alone released it.

Personally, I think people are crazy if they want the President of the United States to factor what’s on television into his decisions. I fully expect his opponents to rip him to shreds (if they haven’t started to already) for giving in to Disney and possibly Fox (Amerian Idol starts its season on the reported alternate date for the State of the Union, January 26).

I’m not saying the President DID defer to those organizations, but it certainly doesn’t look good. And, unfortunately, it’s got an appearance that’s easily spun that way.

I love LOST. I want to see it start as soon as possible (although deferring it another week would’ve meant it lasted a week longer too, right?).

My issue with all this was four-fold:

  1. Many people claimed it was unfair to ABC who had spent so much on advertising – feh, they got tons of free advertising over the last 48 hours and will continue to get more in today’s paper. Trust me, if anyone didn’t know before when the first episode of Season 6 was airing, they know now. And if … if… they felt they had to move the show’s start date… they would have AGAIN gotten tons of free publicity about the move and (based on the press coverage today) tons of support for their willingness to adapt.
  2. Many of the people who spoke out on this issue are typically silent on other more significant issues. Not all… some people do many great things. And, to be honest, a lot of us don’t. We keep quiet unless an issue affects us directly. And even then, sometimes we’re more affected by the fact our favorite actor’s son is in a car accident than our cousin in Topeka. Not everyone’s like that, but one of the things that irks me about the internet in general is that it fosters that skewed sense of where to invest your efforts. This isn’t making much sense, so I’ll just summarize this “point 2” by saying a lot of people got involved in this debate than were involved in issues I would consider more meaningful.
  3. As I stated above, I can’t believe people were encouraging the President to allow his decisions to be influenced by what’s on TV.  A friend of mine pointed out that the Presidential Inauguration was rescheduled once for the Super Bowl, but I would contend that it different matter in many ways. First of all, there was the precedent of it having been moved from Jan 20 at least 5 times prior because the date fell on a Sunday. Not because of football, but to avoid potential religious conflicts. And, the ceremony was moved… not the actual inauguration (in this instance, although we had been President-less for 24 hours after many of the other reschedulings).  And… the decision was criticized. This seemed to have an expectation that the President should defer.
  4. Finally, I felt this was given far too much attention in general. I’m a fan of the show. I want to see the show. I would’ve been irritated to not be able to watch the show, and even more annoyed if I had worked for ABC or some other group which had to work around a Feb 2 State of the Union address. But, this was hardly news. Purple section of the USA Today? Sure. Entertainment Weekly editorial or even article? Sure. But, this story creeped closer and closer to the front page and the front line of the media. It was a question asked of the White House press secretary.

So anyway, it’s all moot.

To quote USA Today, “LOST wins out over State of the Union” and Scott took too long to write about the hullabaloo in his blog designed to allow him to comment on issues that might become irrelevant by the time he recorded ReThinking LOST.

And just to clarify, I’m perfectly happy that LOST will be airing in less than a month. I’ll be watching on February 2nd, and I tip my hat to those of you who ensured there would be no confusion as to which date it all would begin. I just thought the whole thing was a bit silly.

Scott Copperman

New blog about LOST is coming

Posted in General Info with tags , , , on January 8, 2010 by Scott Copperman

Hi everyone. It’s me, Scott (SHC1970), co-host of the ReThinking LOST podcast.

This blog is intended to supplement, not take away from in any way, the podcast that Elton McManus and I produce about the TV show LOST.

Basically, this is going to be a SPOILER FREE presentation of the notes and thoughts I have as I prepare to do our podcast. With Elton and I being on opposite sides of the Atlantic and with our lives as busy as they are we don’t get to podcast as often as we’d like to. Plus, in an interest of keeping our shows a certain length we sometimes don’t get to discuss things in the depth or direction we’d like or originally planned to. Sometimes the time which passes between having a thought to recording to editing to posting the podcast is so long it makes the thought unsuitable for being part of the show. But it’s a thought none the less.

So, this will be a spot where some of those ideas can get out into the interweb.

I promise, it will be SEASON 6 SPOILER-FREE. And hopefully it will be worth your while.

Scott Copperman