Archive for the Observations Category

“We’re the good guys, Michael”

Posted in Observations, Some wonderings I don't really believe, Theories on February 15, 2010 by Scott Copperman

So Ben says, but is he telling the truth?

As much as I believe Ben is good natured just immature, misunderstood, and someone with good intentions but bad methods – I’m not so sure who the good guys really are.

We all believed it was Jacob, and now it’s become in style to say Jacob might be bad. Evil bad? Maybe. Some people think he’s more like eating too many cookies bad: he’s not bad in himself but he doesn’t exactly help you.

I personally believe that it’s not that he’s bad, it’s that he’s no better that Fake Locke/Smokey. Each has different methods, but overall they’re indifferent to the collateral damage they may cause. Think of them as two researchers… Fake Locke has his methods, Jacob has his, but both are still using unwitting, unwilling subjects in their experiments. And we can’t exactly say a higher percentage of Jacob’s subjectees survive.

Heck, at least Smokey seems to do his own dirty work (death of Jacob excluded, of course – but it’s not like he wouldn’t have if he could’ve). Jacob sends “worthy” individuals into battle, and many of them never make it back.

My own theory?  At this point, I think Ben’s good at heart but with poor “people skills.” He has a conscience but he believes he’s a soldier in a greater battle and his needs/wants don’t matter.

Jacob and Smokey are neither bad nor good. Smokey is more heavy handed, cut to the chase… but ultimately both have the same regard or lack of regard for the humans in their charge.

What do you think?

-Scott Copperman

Some thoughts and theories (spoiler-free)

Posted in Observations, Some wonderings I don't really believe, Theories with tags , , , , , on February 11, 2010 by Scott Copperman

I’m not sure that this is the route things will go, but here’e are some ideas I have about what MIGHT be going on in LOST.

  1. A body being “claimed” or “infected” is something like what Smith does to programs in the second movie of the Matrix trilogy. The idea would be that the smoke monster is a consciousness capable of embodying multiple forms at one one time. It is one theory that explains how both Christian Shephard and Claire could be in the cabin at the same time, and one that allows for Smokey to be attempting to take over Sayid’s body at the same time as he is in Locke’s.
  2. There are multiple entities on the island looking to claim new bodies. Are these disembodied spirits the whispers?  Are two of them Adam and Eve? In this theory, Christian Shephard and Claire have been claimed/possessed by different souls, possibly neither of them being the smoke monster.  Or, it’s possible that the smoke monster is a collective of consciousnesses. Each identity within the smoke monster collective is capable of posessing a body at some time.
  3. The vaccinations Claire was taking and the drugs she was given by Ethan could come back to play some role in her fate on the island.

Want to hear more ideas and theories or see these ideas fleshed out in more detail?  Be sure to check out the  ReThinking LOST podcast, available on itunes and at .

-Scott Copperman-

Why isn’t Jin more concerned about Sun?

Posted in Observations, Some wonderings I don't really believe with tags , , , , on February 3, 2010 by Scott Copperman

There is no reason for the Dharma-Losties to think Sun is anywhere except on the island somewhere in the 70s.

I know Jin spent some time looking for Sun, but especially after Sayid showed up in the woods – he should be believing Sun is out there somewhere.

Why isn’t he freaking out looking for her?

I know he’s a cool cucumber, as they say, but new-Jin is back in love with Sun, and he should want to protect her.

Why isn’t he more obsessed with looking for Sun?

Some questions about Charles Widmore

Posted in Observations, Some wonderings I don't really believe with tags , , on January 25, 2010 by Scott Copperman

As we approach the start of season 6, people are getting excited. I am too.

We’ve already recorded our last hiatus episode of ReThinking LOST (the predictions episode will be out by Thursday), so this blog will be a great place for me to share the couple of last minute musings I have.

Today I’d like to talk a bit about Charles Widmore.

Charles was once co-leader of the Others. He was exiled, and hasn’t been back to the island since (as far as we know).

Here are some questions I have…

When we saw Widmore at his youngest, was he in charge of the others? It didn’t seem so. If so, by what right? If not, who was in charge and how did Charles come to be the man?

When he was a leader of the group, did he interact with Jacob? Could he see/hear him? Was his relationship with Jacob better than Bens?

Why couldn’t Widmore get back to the island?  He clearly knew about the Lamppost (he told Desmond that was where Hawking was) … is it that the island would not have allowed him back? Why didn’t Widmore get on the freighter (I suspect it’s partly because he knew how that all would play out)?

Who is Penny’s mother? Many people assume Penny is the child Widmore fathered while off island. Some think it could be Locke. What do you think?

How did Widmore become so wealthy? Is that part of being exiled? What are Widmore’s connections to Dharma, Hanso, Paik? Isn’t the timing of this all kind of odd? Widmore was still on island 16 years before the Losties arrived. That’s a lot of power that man has acquired in a very short amount of time.

Naomi had a picture of Desmond and Penny, which suggests Widmore knew Desmond was on the island. How? Did he manipulate Desmond to be there?

I have a feeling Widmore will play a lesser role in Season 6. That would be disappointing, because I think TPTB spent a lot of time setting him up as the “bad guy if it’s not Ben.” And I don’t think Ben’s a bad guy – not at his core.

-Scott Copperman-

Lost in 8:15 – Where’s Alex?

Posted in Observations, ReThinking LOST, Uncategorized with tags , , , , , , , , , on January 21, 2010 by Scott Copperman

Back on January 12th we recorded what will likely become Episode 23 of ReThinking LOST. The episode is finally going to be released for another week or so, and I don’t want to spoil it, so…  I’m not going to go into all the things we talked about.

However, I will tell you this. Elton McManus, Ross Cleaver, and I spent an hour looking at the original LOST in 8:15 video and the more recent release which covers seasons 1 – 5 instead of only 1-3. The differences were intriguing and if this truly is “what you need to know” going into Season 6, then it suggests many things that people have spent a lot of time analyzing are not important at all.

Case in point (and I’m fairly sure this did not even make it into our discussion)… Alex (Rousseau’s daughter, raised by Ben) does not appear anywhere in either video. Her exclusion from the most recent video suggests that Ben’s issues with Widmore may not play a major role in Season 6.

Can’t you just picture how easy it would have been to have that fast talking woman say “Widmore sent Kimi. Kimi killed Alex. Ben cried. Ben found Widmore and made a promise. “BEN: I’m here, Charles, to tell you that I’m going to kill your daughter. Penelope, is it? And once she’s gone… once she’s dead… then you’ll understand how I feel. And you’ll wish you hadn’t changed the rules.” Ben finds Penny. (shot of young Charlie calling for Mommy). Ben can’t do it.”

Look at this study of the confrontation scene from Vozzek’s web site. Hmm… “the shape of things to come?” Apparently not.

If it turns out that this conflict is over and done with , I think that tells us two things…

  1. Pennys’ lineage as a Widmore, Danielle and Alex, and Ben’s role as a father are not going to be key parts of Season 6.
  2. Widmore is not THE bad guy. He may be a pawn of, but just as I theorize Ben is a good guy with bad people skills… the same may be true of Widmore. But he is NOT the antagonist in our main story of LOST.

We go into this a bit more in next week’s Season 6 Predictions episode of ReThinking LOST, but that won’t be out until after the LOST in 8:15 analysis is released.

So, please be sure to check out that episode and let me know what you think about this and other omissions.

-Scott Copperman-

Keys to Lost Musical Moments

Posted in Observations with tags , , , , on January 11, 2010 by Scott Copperman

At the end of 2009, Matt and Leslie of the Keys to LOST podcast released a 25 Rockin’ Musical Moments Holiday Special. I was proud to be included in that show, and my musical moment was the scene in the pilot episode described below:

[Shot of Michael holding something up (some kind of tarp?) under some debris, puts his arm on Walt’s shoulder. Shot of Locke alone on the beach in a sort of meditation pose (music is sort of bittersweet). Locke holds his arms out, turns his face up to the rain, seems happy; we see the Monster in the jungle by the beach. Claire and Rose see it.]

CLAIRE: There it is again.

ROSE: Oh my god.

(although I also had in mind the scene in all “All the Best Cowboys have Daddy Issues” when Locke predicts the rain and behaves similarly)

The song I felt best captured this/these moment(s) was But Not Tonight by Depeche Mode.

The key lyrics being …

Oh God it’s raining
But I’m not complaining
It’s filling me up with new life
The stars in the sky
Bring tears to my eyes
They’re lighting my way tonight
And I haven’t felt so alive
In years

The moon
Is shining in the sky
Reminding me
Of so many other nights
When my eyes had been so red
I’d been mistaken for dead
But not tonight

As I said in Matt and Leslie’s podcast, I feel like those scenes are significant because they are some of the earliest glimpses we get of John’s special connection to the island. And we see, quite literally, that the island has renewed him… “filling him up with new life.”

Plus, given Locke’s apparent reincarnation in Season 5, the final stanza seems particularly applicable.

There are other great musical moments in LOST (be sure to check out the Keys to Lost episode and the podcast in general, if you haven’t already), but that was one scene which has an automatic soundtrack in my head every time I see it. And so, that was my musical moment.

Scott Copperman